Hollywood®Boy
2008-11-08 17:52:56 UTC
Son of Serpent Esq wrote:
: Rainbow Hawk wrote:
: : On Nov 7, 7:15Â pm, Son of Serpent Esq <***@example.com> wrote:
: : : Ever since the dawn of time, Humankind has been divided into two
: : : camps: Those who were welcome in the camps, and those who weren't.
: : : Stanley Kubrick's film classic 2001: A Space Odyssey best depicts
: : : this early schism in human ancestors: At the side of the communal
: : : water stream, the social apes whacked the antisocial apes over the
: : : heads with bones.
: : ***Darwin? Nope, not two camps. U R putting the cart before the
: : horse. A ficticious movie of no importance.
: : : Over time, religious tradition, social science, and human
: : : evolution have recognized the basic division of mankind into
: : : social and antisocial camps. The antisial have been shunned,
: : : excommunicated, pressed into exile, and even hunted as the social
: : : group has forced the antisocial from its camps, cities, and homes.
: : ***Your bad because you are way off again. Try beginning with
: : Genesis.
: : : With the advent of the Internet as a force in popular culture,
: : : this schism has not only survived, but become stronger and more
: : : readily acknowledged. In the new Information Age, the antisocial
: : : face new pressures, such as flaming, Usenet death penalties, and
: : : being netcopped, and they even have a new name.
: : :
: : : They are called Fuckheads.
: : ***Think maybe you skipped some five or six thousand years?
: : : But what makes a person a Fuckhead? You cannot tell a fuckhead
: : : just by looking at the e-mail address, or the Web site, or even
: : : by the newsgroups the individual frequents. A fuckhead is a
: : : person who, through the pattern of repeated behaviour when
: : : dealing with other Netizens in IRC and Usenet, demonstrates
: : : certain characteristics and a repeated inability or unwillingness
: : : to change or modify his/her behavior to conform to the social
: : : code of conduct called "netiquette."
: : ***Where is the definition of F*ckhead? So, being nice and
: : courteous with others isn't netiquette?
: : : These are the characteristics that make the Fuckhead:
: : :
: : : A Fuckhead Must Have An Exaggerated Sense of His/Her Own
: : : Importance
: : ***Aren't we treating each other equally and equally important? Do
: : unto others as you would have them do unto you.
: : : The Internet fuckhead will come to the table insuperably convinced
: : : of his/her own correctness and of his/her immediacy in any debate
: : : or discussion. For example, the non-fuckhead will join a
: : : discussion cautiously, reading over the prior correspondance and
: : : offering an opinion thoughtfully. The fuckhead will come plowing
: : : in without regard to the established parameters of the debate and
: : : without regard to the existing participants.
: : ***Illogical. To listen and learn is better. Simply mosey into a
: : group with care, find out what each is talking about and ask if you
: : can give any input or help.
: : : The fuckhead, when challenged, will then state some
: : : fantastic-sounding credentials to justify and bolster the strong
: : : opinion. When challenged further, the fuckhead will usually
: : : display anger and refuse to further substantiate the presented
: : : credentials, some sort of "I already said so, and that should be
: : : good enough for you!"
: : ***Why? When challenged just give what you believe will surfice.
: : Why get angry as anger just intimidates causing more anger. Just
: : say okay and move on.
: : : At this point the Fuckhead has demonstrated an exaggerated sense
: : : of his/her own importance: He has presented an overriding opinion
: : : which, in the fuckhead's mind, should be definitive and cease all
: : : debate, and the fuckhead will be unable to understand why the
: : : other Netizens will not accept his/her opinion on sight.
: : ***Only as important as you believe it to be. You are only
: : important if others believe you to be important. Everyone is
: : important to a point, to themselves and to others. If an opinion
: : is presented for observation by others, it should be good. If done
: : with proper kindness and respect the opinion will be discussed
: : : A Fuckhead Must Refuse to Abide By Common Social Rules
: : :
: : : One of the most common traits of the on-line Fuckhead is the
: : : absolute refusal to follow common social rules. For example, the
: : : fuckhead will use racist or sexist terms, will use inappropriate
: : : references to bodily functions, or will otherwise not respect the
: : : rules of society.
: : ***Why cannot one use a word that is pleasing to the eyes, in this
: : study? Now everyone needs to be a socialite? This could be a tough
: : one, but not everyone uses these as you describe.
: : : Fuckheads will frequently use a persecution defense when they are
: : : asked to cease their antisocial behavior. They may claim that they
: : : are being singled out because of their unpopular viewpoints, or
: : : that they are victimized by the nebulous "political correctness"
: : : movement. These claims attempt to avoid the obvious cause of the
: : : challenge, which is the antisocial behavior itself, by demonizing
: : : the reaction to the behavior.
: : ***As a psycologist one would think you have the problems.
: : Persecution defense when asked to decease talking? Hogwash!
: : : The Fuckhead's refusal to abide by common social rules is
: : : therefore manifested. In the early chapters of history, such
: : : refusal to abide by the rules of the group would lead one to be
: : : unwelcome by the fire, or to be tarred and feathered. Now,
: : : though, it is just one more characteristic in the profile of the
: : : Fuckhead.
: : ***Just why and who are you directing this hype at anyway? Common
: : social rules for who? Which one would be unwelcomed?
: : : A Fuckhead Must Never Back Down When Caught In A Lie
: : ***The way you are bouncing around, from dinosaur to technology, no
: : one can understand you caveman.
: : : It is so easy to obtain all sorts of facts on the modern
: : : Information Superhighway that it is hard to imagine anyone
: : : attempting to lie, simply because it is so easy to get caught in
: : : a lie and therefore have your credence demolished. That does not
: : : stop the on-line Fuckhead.
: : ***What is so hard about saying okay or good and moving on. Lies?
: : Everyone gets caught in a lie.
: : : The on-line Fuckhead will lie about where he/she is, what he/she
: : : does, who he/she is, and what he/she knows. For example, a
: : : Fuckhead will claim to be an attorney, even though there are
: : : several on-line directories of attorneys which do not include the
: : : Fuckhead. A Fuckhead will claim to be in a certain geographic
: : : location but not be able to provide details such as the street on
: : : which he/she is located, yet the Internet provides many detailed
: : : maps and guidebooks and even services which tell you how to drive
: : : from your location to any address.
: : ***Not necessarily. So he/she is an attorney, so what. Telling
: : others where you are is nothing wrong. Yep, just follow the map
: : once you are given the address.
: : : Yet this abundance of proof and truth does not deter the Fuckhead
: : : trait of mendacity. "I never said that," claims the Usenet
: : : fuckhead, yet the Usenet archive can give you chapter, verse, and
: : : message ID. And, as befits the Fuckhead, when you challenge the
: : : Fuckhead and prove that the Fuckhead has lied, the Fuckhead will
: : : usually respond with a completely irrelevant ad-hominem attack.
: : : Such is the way of the Fuckhead.
: : ***No, why not read it first, since it could be edited or forged.
: : Hard to say the truth is a lie without proof.
: : : A Fuckhead Must Keep Coming Back Without Mending His/Her Ways
: : :
: : : "Don't you ever learn?" This question is one of the most
: : : frequently asked of wayward children or oft-injured adults. But
: : : when asked of the Fuckhead, the answer is always, "No." The
: : : Fuckhead does not learn.
: : ***Still you have not defined this F*ckhead thing. One with an open
: : mind can learn much, but one must wish to open one's mind.
: : : "Why must you come where you're not wanted?" This question has
: : : been asked of the socially deviant and challenged since the dawn
: : : of time. Yet the Fuckhead will keep coming back, over and over
: : : again.
: : ***No wanted by whom? Well No, not since the dawn of time, rather
: : 8000 years later. Perhaps one is merely attempting to make amends,
: : even though the one did no wrong. Enjoying the company of others
: : and providing fun is friendly.
: : : The Fuckhead will defend his or her inflexibility by saying, "I
: : : have every right to my opinion," and "I have every right to
: : : participate in this discussion." And, in the egalitarian world of
: : : IRC and Usenet, the Fuckhead is correct. But the Fuckhead will
: : : find that other participants, who do not appreciate the
: : : Fuckhead's presence or contributions, will make use of tools such
: : : as "Ignore" commands or killfiles. These tools would not exist if
: : : it weren't for the Fuckheads.
: : ***Defense is self preservation. And yes, everyone has the right to
: : their opinion and the same right to discuss other opinions as well.
: : It is a free country. Yes, the few will do everything the can,
: : short of murder, to run one away. Doesn't always work.
: : : You can count on the Fuckhead to shriek "Censorship!" when you
: : : tune out their input. You can count on the Fuckhead saying rude
: : : things about you when he/she is sure you're no longer listening.
: : : But it will never occur to the Fuckhead to approach topics and
: : : people differently, and never, ever occur to the Fuckhead to
: : : avoid venues where the atmosphere is unfriendly. This inability
: : : to exit gracefully is a distinguishing mark of a Fuckhead.
: : ***Not always, No. NOT. Wrong again.
: : : A Fuckhead Will Change His/Her Beliefs To Suit The Situation
: : :
: : : Fuckheads are dedicated to one cause, furtherance of self; and
: : : they are committed to only one opinion, superiority of self. All
: : : other causes and opinions are secondary to the Fuckhead. The
: : : non-Fuckhead may change his/her opinions from time to time, or
: : : support or abandon causes throughout life, these changes usually
: : : come about when new information is learned, or when circumstances
: : : change. The Fuckhead, however, changes opinions and causes as
: : : readily as a non-Fuckhead might change shirts.
: : ***Not necessarily. Nope, you'd get a lot of change on this one.
: : : A good example of this change of opinion was shown by a notorious
: : : net Fuckhead in relation to a specific issue. Originally, the
: : : Fuckhead held that unsolicited commercial e-mail was evil and a
: : : nuisance. The Fuckhead put himself on the record as holding that
: : : opinion on more than one occasion. However, when the Fuckhead and
: : : his Web site were dismissed from one ISP after another for rules
: : : violations, the only ISP left over which would host the Fuckhead's
: : : Web page was a widely-reviled purveyor of unsolicited commercial
: : : e-mail. The Fuckhead then, as circumstances dictated, reversed his
: : : opinion on UCE and became a booster of that method of
: : : advertisement. ***Sh*t happens. Fuckheads change friends as needs
: : : dictate, aligning themselves with and against other Fuckheads
: : : seemingly without regard to history or common sense. In fact, it
: : : is not uncommon for Fuckheads to be at war in one Usenet
: : : newsgroup and aligned in another. Rational people may agree to
: : : disagree, but the Fuckhead's limited focus and lack of loyalty
: : : allow the Fuckhead to fight with friends and agree with foes so
: : : readily that there is almost no distinction between the two. But
: : : this changeability makes the individual an unworthy foe and an
: : : untrustworthy ally -- and hence, a Fuckhead.
: : ***The change of friends is needed when friends become enemies.
: : History and common sense are good. One here, one there. All fight,
: : yet all will agree.
: : : What Makes a Fuckhead?
: : :
: : : The Fuckhead may display all of these characteristics, or some of
: : : them, or only one. Some may love a Fuckhead like a brother, some
: : : may think their brother is a Fuckhead. What is incontrovertible
: : : is that for all of humanity, there are people that you would
: : : rather not have to deal with, and those people, throughout
: : : history, are the Fuckheads.
: : ***Then again, the F*ckhead may not. One cannot learn without
: : teaching.
:
: Thank you for your reply... truly overwhelming.
truely.
: Rainbow Hawk wrote:
: : On Nov 7, 7:15Â pm, Son of Serpent Esq <***@example.com> wrote:
: : : Ever since the dawn of time, Humankind has been divided into two
: : : camps: Those who were welcome in the camps, and those who weren't.
: : : Stanley Kubrick's film classic 2001: A Space Odyssey best depicts
: : : this early schism in human ancestors: At the side of the communal
: : : water stream, the social apes whacked the antisocial apes over the
: : : heads with bones.
: : ***Darwin? Nope, not two camps. U R putting the cart before the
: : horse. A ficticious movie of no importance.
: : : Over time, religious tradition, social science, and human
: : : evolution have recognized the basic division of mankind into
: : : social and antisocial camps. The antisial have been shunned,
: : : excommunicated, pressed into exile, and even hunted as the social
: : : group has forced the antisocial from its camps, cities, and homes.
: : ***Your bad because you are way off again. Try beginning with
: : Genesis.
: : : With the advent of the Internet as a force in popular culture,
: : : this schism has not only survived, but become stronger and more
: : : readily acknowledged. In the new Information Age, the antisocial
: : : face new pressures, such as flaming, Usenet death penalties, and
: : : being netcopped, and they even have a new name.
: : :
: : : They are called Fuckheads.
: : ***Think maybe you skipped some five or six thousand years?
: : : But what makes a person a Fuckhead? You cannot tell a fuckhead
: : : just by looking at the e-mail address, or the Web site, or even
: : : by the newsgroups the individual frequents. A fuckhead is a
: : : person who, through the pattern of repeated behaviour when
: : : dealing with other Netizens in IRC and Usenet, demonstrates
: : : certain characteristics and a repeated inability or unwillingness
: : : to change or modify his/her behavior to conform to the social
: : : code of conduct called "netiquette."
: : ***Where is the definition of F*ckhead? So, being nice and
: : courteous with others isn't netiquette?
: : : These are the characteristics that make the Fuckhead:
: : :
: : : A Fuckhead Must Have An Exaggerated Sense of His/Her Own
: : : Importance
: : ***Aren't we treating each other equally and equally important? Do
: : unto others as you would have them do unto you.
: : : The Internet fuckhead will come to the table insuperably convinced
: : : of his/her own correctness and of his/her immediacy in any debate
: : : or discussion. For example, the non-fuckhead will join a
: : : discussion cautiously, reading over the prior correspondance and
: : : offering an opinion thoughtfully. The fuckhead will come plowing
: : : in without regard to the established parameters of the debate and
: : : without regard to the existing participants.
: : ***Illogical. To listen and learn is better. Simply mosey into a
: : group with care, find out what each is talking about and ask if you
: : can give any input or help.
: : : The fuckhead, when challenged, will then state some
: : : fantastic-sounding credentials to justify and bolster the strong
: : : opinion. When challenged further, the fuckhead will usually
: : : display anger and refuse to further substantiate the presented
: : : credentials, some sort of "I already said so, and that should be
: : : good enough for you!"
: : ***Why? When challenged just give what you believe will surfice.
: : Why get angry as anger just intimidates causing more anger. Just
: : say okay and move on.
: : : At this point the Fuckhead has demonstrated an exaggerated sense
: : : of his/her own importance: He has presented an overriding opinion
: : : which, in the fuckhead's mind, should be definitive and cease all
: : : debate, and the fuckhead will be unable to understand why the
: : : other Netizens will not accept his/her opinion on sight.
: : ***Only as important as you believe it to be. You are only
: : important if others believe you to be important. Everyone is
: : important to a point, to themselves and to others. If an opinion
: : is presented for observation by others, it should be good. If done
: : with proper kindness and respect the opinion will be discussed
: : : A Fuckhead Must Refuse to Abide By Common Social Rules
: : :
: : : One of the most common traits of the on-line Fuckhead is the
: : : absolute refusal to follow common social rules. For example, the
: : : fuckhead will use racist or sexist terms, will use inappropriate
: : : references to bodily functions, or will otherwise not respect the
: : : rules of society.
: : ***Why cannot one use a word that is pleasing to the eyes, in this
: : study? Now everyone needs to be a socialite? This could be a tough
: : one, but not everyone uses these as you describe.
: : : Fuckheads will frequently use a persecution defense when they are
: : : asked to cease their antisocial behavior. They may claim that they
: : : are being singled out because of their unpopular viewpoints, or
: : : that they are victimized by the nebulous "political correctness"
: : : movement. These claims attempt to avoid the obvious cause of the
: : : challenge, which is the antisocial behavior itself, by demonizing
: : : the reaction to the behavior.
: : ***As a psycologist one would think you have the problems.
: : Persecution defense when asked to decease talking? Hogwash!
: : : The Fuckhead's refusal to abide by common social rules is
: : : therefore manifested. In the early chapters of history, such
: : : refusal to abide by the rules of the group would lead one to be
: : : unwelcome by the fire, or to be tarred and feathered. Now,
: : : though, it is just one more characteristic in the profile of the
: : : Fuckhead.
: : ***Just why and who are you directing this hype at anyway? Common
: : social rules for who? Which one would be unwelcomed?
: : : A Fuckhead Must Never Back Down When Caught In A Lie
: : ***The way you are bouncing around, from dinosaur to technology, no
: : one can understand you caveman.
: : : It is so easy to obtain all sorts of facts on the modern
: : : Information Superhighway that it is hard to imagine anyone
: : : attempting to lie, simply because it is so easy to get caught in
: : : a lie and therefore have your credence demolished. That does not
: : : stop the on-line Fuckhead.
: : ***What is so hard about saying okay or good and moving on. Lies?
: : Everyone gets caught in a lie.
: : : The on-line Fuckhead will lie about where he/she is, what he/she
: : : does, who he/she is, and what he/she knows. For example, a
: : : Fuckhead will claim to be an attorney, even though there are
: : : several on-line directories of attorneys which do not include the
: : : Fuckhead. A Fuckhead will claim to be in a certain geographic
: : : location but not be able to provide details such as the street on
: : : which he/she is located, yet the Internet provides many detailed
: : : maps and guidebooks and even services which tell you how to drive
: : : from your location to any address.
: : ***Not necessarily. So he/she is an attorney, so what. Telling
: : others where you are is nothing wrong. Yep, just follow the map
: : once you are given the address.
: : : Yet this abundance of proof and truth does not deter the Fuckhead
: : : trait of mendacity. "I never said that," claims the Usenet
: : : fuckhead, yet the Usenet archive can give you chapter, verse, and
: : : message ID. And, as befits the Fuckhead, when you challenge the
: : : Fuckhead and prove that the Fuckhead has lied, the Fuckhead will
: : : usually respond with a completely irrelevant ad-hominem attack.
: : : Such is the way of the Fuckhead.
: : ***No, why not read it first, since it could be edited or forged.
: : Hard to say the truth is a lie without proof.
: : : A Fuckhead Must Keep Coming Back Without Mending His/Her Ways
: : :
: : : "Don't you ever learn?" This question is one of the most
: : : frequently asked of wayward children or oft-injured adults. But
: : : when asked of the Fuckhead, the answer is always, "No." The
: : : Fuckhead does not learn.
: : ***Still you have not defined this F*ckhead thing. One with an open
: : mind can learn much, but one must wish to open one's mind.
: : : "Why must you come where you're not wanted?" This question has
: : : been asked of the socially deviant and challenged since the dawn
: : : of time. Yet the Fuckhead will keep coming back, over and over
: : : again.
: : ***No wanted by whom? Well No, not since the dawn of time, rather
: : 8000 years later. Perhaps one is merely attempting to make amends,
: : even though the one did no wrong. Enjoying the company of others
: : and providing fun is friendly.
: : : The Fuckhead will defend his or her inflexibility by saying, "I
: : : have every right to my opinion," and "I have every right to
: : : participate in this discussion." And, in the egalitarian world of
: : : IRC and Usenet, the Fuckhead is correct. But the Fuckhead will
: : : find that other participants, who do not appreciate the
: : : Fuckhead's presence or contributions, will make use of tools such
: : : as "Ignore" commands or killfiles. These tools would not exist if
: : : it weren't for the Fuckheads.
: : ***Defense is self preservation. And yes, everyone has the right to
: : their opinion and the same right to discuss other opinions as well.
: : It is a free country. Yes, the few will do everything the can,
: : short of murder, to run one away. Doesn't always work.
: : : You can count on the Fuckhead to shriek "Censorship!" when you
: : : tune out their input. You can count on the Fuckhead saying rude
: : : things about you when he/she is sure you're no longer listening.
: : : But it will never occur to the Fuckhead to approach topics and
: : : people differently, and never, ever occur to the Fuckhead to
: : : avoid venues where the atmosphere is unfriendly. This inability
: : : to exit gracefully is a distinguishing mark of a Fuckhead.
: : ***Not always, No. NOT. Wrong again.
: : : A Fuckhead Will Change His/Her Beliefs To Suit The Situation
: : :
: : : Fuckheads are dedicated to one cause, furtherance of self; and
: : : they are committed to only one opinion, superiority of self. All
: : : other causes and opinions are secondary to the Fuckhead. The
: : : non-Fuckhead may change his/her opinions from time to time, or
: : : support or abandon causes throughout life, these changes usually
: : : come about when new information is learned, or when circumstances
: : : change. The Fuckhead, however, changes opinions and causes as
: : : readily as a non-Fuckhead might change shirts.
: : ***Not necessarily. Nope, you'd get a lot of change on this one.
: : : A good example of this change of opinion was shown by a notorious
: : : net Fuckhead in relation to a specific issue. Originally, the
: : : Fuckhead held that unsolicited commercial e-mail was evil and a
: : : nuisance. The Fuckhead put himself on the record as holding that
: : : opinion on more than one occasion. However, when the Fuckhead and
: : : his Web site were dismissed from one ISP after another for rules
: : : violations, the only ISP left over which would host the Fuckhead's
: : : Web page was a widely-reviled purveyor of unsolicited commercial
: : : e-mail. The Fuckhead then, as circumstances dictated, reversed his
: : : opinion on UCE and became a booster of that method of
: : : advertisement. ***Sh*t happens. Fuckheads change friends as needs
: : : dictate, aligning themselves with and against other Fuckheads
: : : seemingly without regard to history or common sense. In fact, it
: : : is not uncommon for Fuckheads to be at war in one Usenet
: : : newsgroup and aligned in another. Rational people may agree to
: : : disagree, but the Fuckhead's limited focus and lack of loyalty
: : : allow the Fuckhead to fight with friends and agree with foes so
: : : readily that there is almost no distinction between the two. But
: : : this changeability makes the individual an unworthy foe and an
: : : untrustworthy ally -- and hence, a Fuckhead.
: : ***The change of friends is needed when friends become enemies.
: : History and common sense are good. One here, one there. All fight,
: : yet all will agree.
: : : What Makes a Fuckhead?
: : :
: : : The Fuckhead may display all of these characteristics, or some of
: : : them, or only one. Some may love a Fuckhead like a brother, some
: : : may think their brother is a Fuckhead. What is incontrovertible
: : : is that for all of humanity, there are people that you would
: : : rather not have to deal with, and those people, throughout
: : : history, are the Fuckheads.
: : ***Then again, the F*ckhead may not. One cannot learn without
: : teaching.
:
: Thank you for your reply... truly overwhelming.
truely.